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Ronald_antly 1:31 Wed Sep 2
Winston Churchill - A man ahead of his time?

I've long considered his contribution to the defeat of Germany to be overstated, and still do.

However, in a speech made after the war, he made a quite breath-taking (pun intended) statement.

"A Socialist State once thoroughly completed in all its details and aspects� could not afford opposition. Socialism is, in its essence, an attack upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils. "

Of course, at least ostensibly, Britain does not currently have a socialist government, though it could reasonably be argued that the amount of money being thrown around in recent months is classic socialism.

However, the SHEER PROPHECY lies in the words " ...harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils. "

The speech is discussed here, with the actual speech at the end.

https://youtu.be/hbzuUBTrG8w

I'm sure Sold will lap it up.

bruuuno 1:47 Wed Sep 2
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Go to bed antly

gph 1:52 Wed Sep 2
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He's only just got up in upside-down land.

Mind you, it's still a good idea.

Ronald_antly 1:55 Wed Sep 2
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Sobered up yet, bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuno?

gph 2:01 Wed Sep 2
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Do you think it was the socialists in the Republican government of the US who were behind 9/11, ron?

Darby_ 5:06 Wed Sep 2
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“a harsh, clumsy, tyrannical reptilian hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils.”

Manuel 5:08 Wed Sep 2
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Newcastle are decent, but I fancy us to nick it.

Nurse Ratched 9:30 Wed Sep 2
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Slightly disappointing, Ron. I was expecting to learn he zipped about the walled gardens of Chequers in a jetpack or something.

Ronald_antly 10:22 Wed Sep 2
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But, Matron, had I said that, I strongly suspect you would have been firmly in the DT camp.

Far Cough 10:24 Wed Sep 2
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Churchill was a qualified bricklayer





Not a lot of people know that

Sydney_Iron 10:29 Wed Sep 2
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He was the Bill Gates of his era.

Toe Rag 10:31 Wed Sep 2
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His romper suits were also an inspired sartorial decision.

One side had the Old Hugo Boss, the other side a man who dressed as a giant baby. No surprises who came out on top.

Whilst I completely understand the desire to look cool whilst murdering millions of people it gets in the way of getting the job done.

Westham67 11:40 Wed Sep 2
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Do one Ron, Ron da do one Ron

Mr Kenzo 11:57 Wed Sep 2
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He was close to being sacked off during the war by his own party

Far Cough 1:20 Wed Sep 2
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Kenzo, I don't recall that? At point of the war was that then?

ManorParkHammer 5:03 Wed Sep 2
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A thick mans attempt at a clever mans thread.

Mr Kenzo 5:14 Wed Sep 2
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Far Cough - I was relating to this

In May 1940, during the Second World War, the British war cabinet was split on the question of whether to make terms with Nazi Germany or to continue hostilities. The main protagonists were Prime Minister Winston Churchill and Foreign Secretary Viscount Halifax. The dispute escalated to crisis point and threatened the continuity of the Churchill government.

With the British Expeditionary Force in retreat to Dunkirk and the Fall of France seemingly imminent, Halifax believed that the government should explore the possibility of a negotiated peace settlement. His hope was that Hitler's ally, the still-neutral Italian dictator Mussolini, would broker an agreement. When a memorandum proposing this approach was discussed at the War Cabinet on 27 May, Churchill opposed it and urged his colleagues to fight on without negotiations. He was supported in the war cabinet by its two Labour Party members, Clement Attlee and Arthur Greenwood, and also by the Secretary of State for Air, Sir Archibald Sinclair, who as leader of the Liberal Party was co-opted to the war cabinet for its meetings about the proposed negotiations. Churchill's biggest problem was that he was not the leader of the Conservative Party and he needed to win the support of ex-Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, without which he could have been forced to resign by the large Conservative majority in the House of Commons.

On 28 May, Churchill outmanoeuvred Halifax by calling a meeting of his 25-member outer cabinet, at which his resolve to fight on was unanimously supported. Halifax then accepted the rejection of his proposal, though he may have been more influenced by the loss of Chamberlain's support. There is a consensus among historians that Chamberlain's eventual support for Churchill was a critical turning point in the war.

MPH - Stick to your Coke and Crisps ?

Far Cough 6:03 Wed Sep 2
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Kenzo, fair enough

I believe the choice of PM after Chamberlain resigned was either Churchill or Halifax, good job it was Churchill otherwise we could all be spreken zee old Deutsche

sidneyshitcunt 6:09 Wed Sep 2
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smoking cunt

Swiss. 6:14 Wed Sep 2
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Massively overrated but a orator. Absolute shambles as First Lord of the Admiralty in the Gallipoli Campaign he was a disaster.

Ronald_antly 1:09 Thu Sep 3
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Swiss.

Yes, he could certainly TALK a good war.

We shall 'give it LARGE' on the beaches!

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